Manufacturing Engineer Review
at BAE Systems
Degree Apprenticeship
Engineering
Barrow-in-Furness
Review Submitted: May 2024
Overall Rating
3.4 /5
The Overall Rating is the average of all the ratings given in each category. We take those individual ratings and combine them into one final score!
Overview of Role
Please give an overview of your role and what this involves on a day-to-day basis:
To what extent do you enjoy your programme?
Skills Development
Have you learnt any new skills or developed existing skills?
Structure and Support
How well organised/structured is your programme?
Recruitment, though a while ago was very painful with a total lack of information on what we would be doing, where we would be learning or what degree we would be completing, a degree in manufacturing engineering is very different to the mechanical engineering degree that was muted before it was fixed.
Learning Reviews are organised well offering support from the early careers team.
But the main factor for the rating is the complete lack of shop floor experience that the apprentices are provided, our job is almost exclusively desk based but the majority of apprentices (designers included) who have never experienced welding or fitting, which will always lead to a lack of fundamental engineering understanding: its very difficult to understand that putting a bolt too near a corner will prevent a fitter from using a socket and ratchet and so make it a pain from a computer desk.
How much support do you receive from your employer?
Apprentices wanting to learn relevant material that is not on the college course or in placement struggle to get it arranged and this is a mixture of Manufacturing Engineering and Early Careers causing this.
There is also a fair chunk of work that has to be completed outside of college, revision and assignments (essays), these are not unreasonable however it makes balancing personal life and college asks outside of the 37 hour job very difficult, this is not an apprenticeship specific flaw however i can think of ways this could be improved.
Finally, apprentices are not treated as adults by early careers (in more ways than one), e.g. early careers treats every single college day as absolutely unmissable, realistically, having worked full time (at times as a lead hand) before coming to Barrow I am 22 now and live in my own house, I find it very irritating be told that i can not book a weeks holiday for the majority of the year because i will miss one day at college, just leave me to catch up with it in my spare time, just like the rest of the college work we have to do in our spare time.
How much support do you receive from your training provider when working towards your qualifications?
How well do you feel that your qualification (through your training provider) helps you to perform better in your role?
Are there extra-curricular activities to get involved in at your work? (For example, any social activities, sports teams, or even professional networking events.)
Recommendations & Advice
Would you recommend BAE Systems to a friend?
Why?
What tips or advice would you give to others applying to BAE Systems?
if you want to be on the shop floor don't be pressured to get a job that's in the office you wont be happy.
Apply for shorter apprenticeships, typically you will be paid very well after three years not five, and if you enjoy it the company will put you through a degree once you have finished if you would like, this makes a lot more sense someone applying.
Be aware, transferring between apprenticeship is not possible while you are an apprentice, it possibly is easier once you are out of the apprenticeship, FYI designers (CADies) lead to elctro/mechanical engineers